How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter?

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Got a quick question for anyone who might be online.

I'm in the middle of replacing the fork springs with the new Progressive Suspensions; mine have been bottoming out, even on small bumps or with quick braking. I noticed when I pulled mine out that they were longer and had a slightly larger diameter than the Progressive Suspensions. Mine were 21" long with no spacers and no washers. The progressive Suspensions are 18" long and came with PVC pipe, which I cut off two 2" spacers per the PS instructions. Also, the springs that were already in the bike seem to have a slightly wider diameter.

I thought our springs were shorter than the PS's and had steel tube spacers. I'm not sure WHY I thought that, as this is my first time replacing them, but it seems I saw it in a post somewhere. Does it seem right to you guys that my PS springs are 3" shorter than stock (if these are stock), that my forks had no spacers, and that PS recommends 2" of spacers that will actually make mine come out 1" shorter than they originally were?


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Aint' this some ****? When I got my fork seals replaced last year, I provided the mechanic with the seals, the oil, and the ZL900 Service Manual. Now that I have my forks out, I went to measure the oil and after 10" (254mm) of wire (the as much wire as I had), I am still not hitting oil. No wonder the damn things were bottoming out. But here's the kicker. The mechanic gave me the remainder of the oil and there is exactly 552mm gone from the bottle, meaning he used the right amount. My forks have been bottoming out ever since I got them done, but they have never leaked. With the springs out and the forks compressed, shouldn't I be hitting oil somewhere around 170mm?

I noticed them bottoming out right after having my oil replaced last year, and I asked the guy about it. He swore that he did it according to spec, and that it must be my springs that are worn.
 
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Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

The spring rates are different. Just toss the new ones in with the spacer. The stockers may be compressed more than the new ones when the bikes weight is on them, the progressive has a stiffer section in them than the stockers.

Hope that makes sence.
 
Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

It does make sense, I just wanted to be sure. I don't know why I had that steel spacer thought in my head. I must have checked out a tutorial on a different bike and got that mixed up in my head with the ZL.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Also, I just edited my original post, would you mind taking a look at that amendment, too?
 
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Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

:hello: The Progressive springs are for about 10 different bikes. The spacers are needed for the ZLs. A list of bikes should of came with the springs. They recommend 2" spacers for the 9 & 10.
 
Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

Thanks, that makes sense, too. I added oil till it was 5.5" from the top. Then I inserted the springs, the washers, and 2" spacers. I also put about 5psi of air in them, but they are a little stiff for me, so I'm sure I'll let that back out.

The good news is that, after installing the springs, I drove straight to a curve at my local Shell station that always bottoms out my forks and took it head-on. I was perfectly fine going over it.
 
Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

Allrite, now what oil did you use? Hopefully it was a bit heavier than spec.
We would like to hear some reviews

Hopefully the front end is as light as a feather for ya.
 
Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

Sorry I didn't report back right away. I had a death in the family so I had to pack up and fly to New Orleans without really getting to test out the forks. I just got back last night and I took the bike out for a ride today. The good news is, bumps that had been kicking my a** for nearly a year are no longer a problem. The new, Progressive Suspension springs are great, and the oil put in by the mechanic who did my fork seal replacement was way too low, so adjusting that also did wonders for the ride. The bad news is, when I'm on a bumpy road and I loosen my grip, or let go of the handle bars as a test, I get a lot of wobble, which I didn't have before.

I do have the fork brace on there and it was on wile I was replacing the springs. Maybe I need to loosen it up to let the forks fall back into their natural resting place, and make sure that it is straight, before re-tightening the brace.
 
Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

Worth a try. You also might want to try riding it without the brace & see how that is.
 
Re: How long are our stock fork springs and should Progressive Suspensions be shorter

Right, that wobble is from the forks being "tweaked" , the tire is trying to go straight... Lift the front, loosen everything back up and re-tighten.

Putt
 
Now that Progressive Suspension no longer makes front springs for our ZL900/1000, does anyone know what other aftermarket springs will fit them? Will the PS springs from a Concours 1000 or any other bike work?
 
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Thanks, but the WeMoto site will not allow me to order them, and the motorcyceid site has only 'universal fit, not vehicle specific'.
 
Sooo...R.J., are you saying the ZG1000 PS springs fit the ZL1000?
 
:hello: I'm not sure on that. If any members have a ZG 10 they could compare the length and dimeter of the forks to the ZL 10s.
 
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