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Bought a ZL600 :)

Soybean Jan 12, 2018

  1. Soybean

    Soybean Member

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    Hey folks.
    I'm now a fully fledged member of the ZL owners fraternity.
    Yesterday I bought a ZL600 from Dan Mcglynn who is or was a member of this forum I think.
    Only cost £300 but I had to get carbs from elsewhere, though two sets were only £60 and one of them originally lived on this bike anyway.

    Okay, now for a technical question, or maybe two.
    When I bought it I was set on getting it regardless so I overlooked one fault I think I've found. Thing is, now I don't know if it's a major one. When I checked the gear lever and tried to click it down and then up there was nothing there. No click, no resistance. I don't know if the gear selector forks, if that's what it has, whether they're knackered or something else may be wrong.
    Of course without being able to run the engine I don't know what it is and whether something was just sticking due to the bike being stood a while.
    If it looks like it is knackered, then I'll source a replacement engine or just see if I can mend it. The engine is probably coming out of the frame anyway as I want to strip it down and make sure it's all 100% solid and it may get a fresh coat of paint.
    Also, pod filters. What's the verdict? It's not like there isn't thousands of bikes happily running around with them fitted. Of course I'd get the engine professionally set up with them on. As it is, I don't have an air filter box anyway, so I don't see the point in trying to get one. And besides, aren't they supposed to be a bit of a twat to refit anyway? ;)
     
  2. prfixer

    prfixer Senior Member Supporting Member

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    It probably won't run through the gears unless it is in motion.
     
  3. Soybean

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    Hmm, but every other bike I've ever been on, even when the engine isn't running it can still be put into first or second gear at least. I'll have to wait until I get home on Monday, but I'll try pushing it around and see if something is just sticking. :/
     
  4. prfixer

    prfixer Senior Member Supporting Member

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    sorry I mis-understood. I thought it was going into 1st and then not going into higher gears on the way back up.
     
  5. Zoid

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    Hi soybean, congrats on your purchase. Regarding pods they are easier to fit and remove yes, but setting them up can be a realing pain. If you can find one i would go for an airbox. I see no real performance benefits with pods. Mine has them,probably because the airbox wouldn't fit with the larger engine and I am struggling to get it running properly throughout the rev range. You may find there isn't a problem with the gears once the bike is running, if you try 1st gear and then push the bike or elevate the rear wheel it may be in gear. The gears can be deceptively smooth sometimes so aren't always convincing like a harley for example.
     
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  6. Soybean

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    Thanks. I think a part of the attraction of pods is the induction noise! LOL
    I'll see what happens. I might get pods and get it professionally set up. If it runs fine cool, if not then find and fit an air box. Well , find one. Fitting it is a job for a sorcerer by all accounts!
    Regards the gears. When I pressed the gear lever down there was nothing at all. I did it a few times, and pushed the bike along just in case but it just free wheeled.
    The engine is coming out anyway, so unless it miraculously fixes itself it'll get opened up and looked at.
     
  7. kawboy

    kawboy Supporting Member Technical Author

    That's the infamous Kawasaki "positive neutral finder". It won't shift unless the bike is moving.
     
  8. Soybean

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    Ahh, thank you. I did actually manage to find a gear eventually. Just pushed it up and down the driveway and it suddenly stopped moving, so it had found first gear at least. It's put my mind at rest knowing that I can find the gears, and like you say, it's a common quirk. :)
     
  9. ZLrider

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    As a fellow 600 owner I'd not even attempt to mess with the carbs. They seem to be a royal pain even for skilled mechanics. I'd advice to get a stock airbox as it will take less time to get it right I suspect.

    As for gears, mine always clicks into place easily, even when sitting, but have never tried to actually shift higher than 1st while it's not in motion.

    My mechanical skills are average at best, but IMO these are not easy bikes to work on and most shops on this side of the big pond won't work on bikes of this vintage. That said you can get a lot of great advice here and if persistent can likely keep it running yourself. If you like to wrench as much as ride this shouldn't be a problem. As for me, I many times wish had a simpler machine.
     
  10. Soybean

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    Thanks for the advice. I'm going to attempt it with pod filters though. I have faith in the mechanic to set it up.
    It's possibly going to have the GPZ carbs fitted if it'll run better with them.
    Also it's going to have a less restrictive exhaust fitted. The guy who is going to do it has been tuning all sorts of bikes for many years. I'm sure he can get it running just Nicely.
     

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